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#1 2017-03-13 14:47:06

Kepouick
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Registered: 2017-03-11
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it's possible to kill T5577 ?

After a few I think I killed two cards of type T5577, I think I have typed a bad id during tests of clones ... (I did not understand the mode stand alone), I tried to rewrite the block 0 with a new id, but I no longer communicate with these cards. Do you think I little throw the cards?

my last writing is :

lf t55xx write 0 03C294CB
Writing to block: 0  data  : 0x03C294CB         
Error occurred, device did not ACK write operation. (May be due to old firmware)

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#2 2017-03-17 11:18:26

Dot.Com
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Re: it's possible to kill T5577 ?

have you tried using lf t55 wipe ?

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#3 2017-03-18 20:46:55

Kepouick
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Re: it's possible to kill T5577 ?

i have a sticker on the card with TYPE : T5577 FREQ : 125K
But when i have realise my first command : LF search u 

i have this return :
proxmark3> lf search  u
Reading 30000 bytes from device memory
Data fetched         
Samples @ 8 bits/smpl, decimation 1:1           
NOTE: some demods output possible binary
  if it finds something that looks like a tag         
False Positives ARE possible
Checking for known tags:
EM410x pattern found:           
EM TAG ID      : 000003E9E5         
Unique TAG ID  : 0000C097A7         
Possible de-scramble patterns         
HoneyWell IdentKey {         
DEZ 8          : 00256485         
DEZ 10         : 0000256485         
DEZ 5.5        : 00003.59877         
DEZ 3.5A       : 000.59877         
DEZ 3.5B       : 000.59877         
DEZ 3.5C       : 003.59877         
DEZ 14/IK2     : 00000000256485         
DEZ 15/IK3     : 000000012621735         
DEZ 20/ZK      : 00000000120009071007         
}
Other          : 59877_003_00256485         
Pattern Paxton : 1583077 [0x1827E5]         
Pattern 1      : 703315 [0xABB53]         
Pattern Sebury : 59877 3 256485  [0xE9E5 0x3 0x3E9E5]         
Valid EM410x ID Found!



it's possible to receive a T5577 with a EM410X in memory ? or maybe stickers error ? what do you thing ?

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#4 2017-03-19 10:09:43

iceman
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Re: it's possible to kill T5577 ?

the purpose of t55x7 cards is to simulate different LF cards. Its fully possible to emul a em410x.   The clone commands is targeted to t55x7 cards.  Don't write to block 0, if you don't know what you are doing.  Block 0 is the configuration block, which decides how the t55x7 should simulate.  Writing a bad configblock (bad values),  you can brick it, like in perma-brick it.

I suggest you read up on this forum, and wiki for LF commands and datasheets.

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#5 2017-03-20 04:42:14

Dot.Com
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Re: it's possible to kill T5577 ?

Kepouick wrote:

i have a sticker on the card with TYPE : T5577 FREQ : 125K
But when i have realise my first command : LF search u 

i have this return :
proxmark3> lf search  u
Reading 30000 bytes from device memory
Data fetched         
Samples @ 8 bits/smpl, decimation 1:1           
NOTE: some demods output possible binary
  if it finds something that looks like a tag         
False Positives ARE possible
Checking for known tags:
EM410x pattern found:           
EM TAG ID      : 000003E9E5         
Unique TAG ID  : 0000C097A7         
Possible de-scramble patterns         
HoneyWell IdentKey {         
DEZ 8          : 00256485         
DEZ 10         : 0000256485         
DEZ 5.5        : 00003.59877         
DEZ 3.5A       : 000.59877         
DEZ 3.5B       : 000.59877         
DEZ 3.5C       : 003.59877         
DEZ 14/IK2     : 00000000256485         
DEZ 15/IK3     : 000000012621735         
DEZ 20/ZK      : 00000000120009071007         
}
Other          : 59877_003_00256485         
Pattern Paxton : 1583077 [0x1827E5]         
Pattern 1      : 703315 [0xABB53]         
Pattern Sebury : 59877 3 256485  [0xE9E5 0x3 0x3E9E5]         
Valid EM410x ID Found!



it's possible to receive a T5577 with a EM410X in memory ? or maybe stickers error ? what do you thing ?

you probably brick your card. try using lf t55 wipe. if it doesn't work, then that tag is perma-brick.

Maybe you could tell us what you want to do with it so we could better help you ?

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#6 2017-03-22 03:05:19

hkplus
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Registered: 2015-01-07
Posts: 127

Re: it's possible to kill T5577 ?

You first have to program the radio block back to a setting that will work for your programmer.  Then you can have access to the data registers again.  Sometimes particular programmers can't set this block (block 0) back to usable settings, which can make the card inoperable.

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#7 2017-04-11 00:23:54

Danz
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From: Dubai
Registered: 2015-10-24
Posts: 98

Re: it's possible to kill T5577 ?

try to reset t55 card first with :

lf t55 wr b 0 d 00148040 p 00000000

then do your new block 0 configuration :

lf t55xx write 0 03C294CB

...

Let me know how that turns out !

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#8 2017-04-11 22:26:49

iceman
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Re: it's possible to kill T5577 ?

That looks like a strange config block.

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#9 2017-04-12 10:28:32

Danz
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Registered: 2015-10-24
Posts: 98

Re: it's possible to kill T5577 ?

well am not sure how strange it is(03C294CB), but am sure it is the same config block in the previous post  /viewtopic.php?id=4603

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#10 2017-04-14 01:05:38

iceman
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Re: it's possible to kill T5577 ?

that link goes to a very old thread,  but not posts about that configblock...

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